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Time: October 15 2003 at 19:06:27
Name: Dave
Location: in the loop
Comments: Mike Miller asks if the Stephens Media Group that owns the Fort Smith newspaper -- the Southwest Times Record -- is part of Jack Stephens' empire. It is. Stephens Media is a successor to Donrey Media. In the early 1990s, old Donald W. Reynolds -- now the namesake of an arena in Tulsa and a stadium in Fayetteville -- owned Donrey until the day he died. The company ownership then reverted to the Donrey's retirement trust, but that lasted only until Stephens came along and bought Donrey.

Donrey used to own a long string of small newspapers stretching from Indiana to Hawaii. Stephens sold the smallest ones (many in Oklahoma). It kept the papers in Las Vegas, Fort Smith, Springdale/Fayetteville/Rogers and a few other places.

Time: October 15 2003 at 16:37:31
Name: Jim Ruddle
Location: Rye, NY
Comments: 'Twasn't Cain's, but Leon McAuliffe's Cimarron Ballroom in the Akdar. KVOO-TV was also there and some of the snuff Noel Confer stole from Uncle Hiram can still be found occasionally.

Time: October 15 2003 at 15:09:30
Name: Steve Bagsby
Location: wiring up the crystal set
Comments: KRMG was located in the old Akdar Temple downtown (click to see a 1953 picture...webmaster). Someone told me that KVOO TV was also in that building before moving to Brookside. That building later became home of the Cimarron Ballroom.

Time: October 15 2003 at 12:59:23
Name: Bill Nielson
Location: T-Town
Comments: Cain's...was not that the one time location of 740 KRMG? We went by there one evening in the early sixties and got to meet the great Johnny Martin and his newsman Ed Brocksmith. I know it was not Liberty Towers, it had not yet been built.

Time: October 14 2003 at 11:36:10
Name: Pam Van Dyke Crosby
Location: Tulsa, OK
Comments: A few days ago my friend Casey Morgan of KWGS Public Radio let me know that the Horn Brothers Country Music Show on Channel 8 was being mentioned. I had a great time on that show. That's where I met some of Tulsa's finest western swing players. I also got acquainted with Gailard Sartain because his show was taped later that night.

Although I grew up in Oklahoma I had only recently moved to Tulsa from New York City where I had been singing in nightclubs and with the Sammy Kaye Orchestra. I've stayed in Tulsa and continued singing.

I have my own jazz quartet and I work with Sentimental Journey (18 piece band) and Swinghouse (10 piece). I'm a founder and president of the Tulsa Jazz Society and I'm involved with the Oklahoma Jazz Hall of Fame. I do have three CD's available and I'm getting ready to record again.

It has been fun to be talked about. Those were amazing, exciting times in my life.

Thanks for remembering.

Great to hear from you, Pam.

Time: October 14 2003 at 10:48:10
Name: Erick
Location: Tulsa
Comments: I wonder if the renovation of the Cain's changes the paranormal landscape of the building? Perhaps PITT should re-investigate?

I will be attending the Nickel Creek concert at the Cain's in November, and a little ghost action will just add to the fun!

Time: October 13 2003 at 18:19:14
Name: Kathy Schramm Rapp
Location: Texas
Comments: With Halloween just around the corner, I've been browsing through related subjects on the net and came upon the Paranormal Investigation Team of Tulsa (or PITT). According to their website, they're conducting their first ghost tour on Fri., Oct. 31st, 2003. Included on their tour route are places in Tulsa which are supposedly haunted: Cain's Ballroom, Adams & Mayo Hotel, Thomas Gilcrease Home, among others. Anyone going? They also have a lot of Tulsa landmarks on the site. Just thought it was interesting.

We took note of PITT's investigation of the Cain's this year on Club Card page 1.

Time: October 13 2003 at 02:55:36
Name: Don Norton
Location: Tulsa, Once and Again
Comments: Mike Ransom's mighty "Tulsa TV Memories" website has SCORED AGAIN!

After FIFTY YEARS of utter silence on his whereabouts since graduation from TU in 1953, no word on what he was doing, etc., who should (figuratively) fall out of my computer two weeks ago but RICHARD J.("DICK") GARCIA!!! Not only that, he (and wife Virginia) are headed for Tulsa (from their home in Sacramento, California), to attend TU Homecoming events and Dick will join the 50-year club!!!

Dick said he found me by surfing the net for news of Tulsa and TU and came accidentally on "TV Memories." There he found my email address and decided to contact me.

Dick has quite a tale to tell and I will let him tell it when he gets here--working at several California stations, WASH-FM in Washington (D.C.), WKYC in Cleveland (with Virgil Dominic at WKYC-TV at the same time). Prior to all this was an enlistment in the Army's Counter Intelligence Corps which took him to Europe (yep, I'm jealous!).

I realize the majority of readers of "TV Memories" these days are too young to have known Dick, but everyone "of a certain age" who attended TU at that time (Attention: Noel Confer) will surely remember he was a booth announcer at KOTV in the Harry Volkman era. In any case, it will be great to see an old friend! Ed Dumit, who searched frantically and unsuccessfully for Garcia ahead of the KWGS 50th anniversary events is also looking forward to Dick's visit.

Time: October 12 2003 at 10:16:58
Name: Chris Starr
Location: Mannford
Comments: Mike:

Were you the local photographer that took back-up photos of the crime scene at the direction of Sid Wise? Were you familiar with Ron Grimsley of the Pryor Daily Times?

Was Camp Scott on the east or west side of Hwy 82?

The basic facts of the case are on the OSBI's site. A 1981 book on the subject is out of print, but available from Amazon.com: Someone Cry for the Children: The Girl Scout Murders of Oklahoma and the Case of Gene Leroy Hart. The reader comments at Amazon's site are of interest. The book is also available for check out from the Tulsa library, though there are several holds on it at the moment.

By the way, the Tulsa library system is fantastic. You can browse the catalog, reserve books, have them sent to your nearest branch, and get email notification that they have arrived, all online.

Time: October 12 2003 at 09:23:30
Name: Mike Wheat
Location: Pryor, OK
Comments: I worked for the local weekly, the Pryor Jeffersonian, during the Camp Scott episode. Because I had a good working relationship with the area cops, they called me to the crime scene about 7 a.m. the morning of the murders to take photographs. While the crime was a tragedy, I was always amused at many of the pompous TeeVee types who covered the investigation and trial. The news work they did was good, being a huge story, but what a bunch of egos! Because I was an insider on the case, I never had to buy a beer at the media hangout in the bar at the local motel.


Time: October 12 2003 at 01:55:31
Name: edwin
Location: uh
Comments: While they were looking for the pedo-guy, my family camped 7 miles to the N.E. of L. Grove & had some of our food taken away during the nite...animals or ?..never could tell.

Time: October 11 2003 at 18:52:16
Name: Chris Starr
Location: Mannford
Comments: Modell Phipps.......was that the character featured in the old radio spots for Townsend Top Shop, which was located near the old Annex 3 theater?

Was in Locust Grove a week ago.....driving south down Hwy 82 I thought back to the Girl Scout murders of '77. I noticed that Camp Garland is still there, but Camp Scott is now gone. Would be interested in hearing any recollections from anyone who covered the murders and trial for any local media. Am I remembering right that Gene Leroy Hart was acquitted? What ever became of Sid Wise and Buddy Fallis?

Jim Reid talked about the story in Guestbook 76. Bob Duff is seen reporting it on the KOTV page featuring the newscast of June 28, 1977.

Clayton Vaughn, from John Hillis' video tape
Clayton Vaughn anchored the KOTV News of 6/28/1977

Time: October 11 2003 at 18:10:46
Name: Kathy Schramm Rapp
Location: Texas-just finished watching the Big Game

65-13! What a blow-out. That makes 4 straight years. Well, congratulations to the Sooners. Great game.

Time: October 10 2003 at 23:12:19
Name: Dave Harmon
Location: 1 mile south of where Ascot Racetrack used to be
Comments: Shotgun Sam's had a stage on the south side of the building. I sure had a lot of fun in there. Nothing left of it now except a faint outline of where the foundation used to be.

Makes me sick to think about it.

Time: October 10 2003 at 13:03:32
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: Shakey's had the player piano as well as banjo players occasionally. Seems like Shotgun Sam's had something of the sort also...a stage or some kind of live ragtime. Banjos and pizza go together like Danl. P. Holmes & Hwy. 33.

Dan P. Holmes, courtesy of Frank Morrow    "And now, let's talk about Highway 33!"

Bumper sticker

Highway 33 bumper sticker

Time: October 10 2003 at 12:20:34
Name: Erick
Location: Tulsa
Comments: The Williams Center Forum (theaters included, I believe) have been transformed to office space I think.

That is a true statement.

Time: October 10 2003 at 11:08:56
Name: Wade Hemmert
Location: Tampa, FL
Shakey's Pizza logoComments: When I was young, my parents would take me and my brothers and our friends to Shakey's Pizza Parlor (usually the one on east Admiral out by the traffic circle) after the Saturday night stock car races at the fairgrounds.

My question is this: Was it Shakey's or Shotgun Sam's that had the guy who played the piano in the dining room? It seems there was also a big window through which we could watch 'em making the pizza in the kitchen.

Lordy, I sure do miss living there...............

Mike MillerTime: October 10 2003 at 10:38:28
Name: Mike Miller
Location: Fort Smith, Arkansas
Comments: Just thought I’d let you know we are finally moved from the DC area to Fort Smith. This town is somewhat of a jolt!

Boy do I miss the Washington Post. The local newspaper is now owned by Stephens Media Group. (Is this Jack Stephens of Little Rock and Worthen Bank fame?) Anyway, front page news is usually devoted to quilt contests and the local airport political problems. So thank goodness for cable news.

I have found a couple of good places for chicken fried steak and BBQ. More later. Right now I am only able to use the Internet via the local library. But at least we are here and closer to Tulsa. Hope to say hello when I make it up there, Mike.

Sounds good...let me know when you're headed in this direction.

Time: October 09 2003 at 23:16:56
Name: Rich Lohman
Location: What the?!?
Comments: Accountability Burns? I have a story about him!!! Sorry about the non-TV rant Mike but this simply has to be shared.

In 1995 I was working for Sheriff Stanley Glanz in the Tulsa County Courthouse (I was the evening shift security officer) and I was locking up one spring evening when A. Burns came calling at the front door. He handed me a piece of paper and he told me to "serve" the Sheriff and the Chief District Court Judge with it. I thanked him politely and he went on his way. I wish I had saved the note because, among other things, Mr. Burns wanted the 1994 election thrown out, the Sheriff's Office closed down and the inmates in the jail set free. No reason was given that I could readily decipher as the legal papers he was using looked like old traffic citations.

It should be noted that in further discussions with Accountability, he told me to line my baseball caps with aluminum foil to keep the spy satellites from stealing my brain waves.

Ship him to California, and Arnold has an opponent for the next go-round. The scary thing is that like Arnold, I think A. Burns is smarter than he looks, if you don't count the dementia.

Indeed; I believe Accountability has a background in mathematics (not accounting).

Accountability Burns

Time: October 09 2003 at 23:12:25
Name: edwin
Location: Just moved into a 3000sq.ft. house! (Mom in-law included, hence the footage!)
Comments: Mike, while Pam was & is a fine singer, I thought her belly dancing show in '74 (cable) was a very FINE thing! To bad I didn't have proper facilities to do her justice at the time.

By the way, are Koolees & Icees an old item?...Jeez, I'm old! You all stop talking in this fashion...please!

Time: October 09 2003 at 18:10:13
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Watching "network lines"....
Comments: Unless there is ANOTHER newtork grade courtroom sketch artist by the same name - former KOCO news graphics artist Pat Lopez may be doing CBS' courtroom coverage sketchwork of the Kobe Bryant trial in Eagle County, CO. When last heard from about 6 or 7 years ago - Pat was in Dallas stringing for WFAA and ABC regionally as their near-full-time courtroom artist. Lopez also used to make good change from her painted-from-photos or real life horse portraits from equine lovers in OK and TX.

RX Depot from Tulsa also made the CBS Evening News tonight on their importing of overseas drugs.

I did not know about The Westby Theatre - wow. So what happened to the theatres in the shopping mall at Williams Center?

Time: October 09 2003 at 15:37:44
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Beautiful Fall Day in DC - dodging all the Punkin stands in VA like Pigboy Willis'....
Comments: Horn Bros. was a big production for 8 - but typical of a lot of country music shows that we did. Pam Van Dyke often appeared as a semi-regular. It has been noted that she became a big band singer or has appeared with jazz groups. See previous postings here. Anyone know if Pam ever did a CD of her country or jazz stylings?

Time: October 09 2003 at 08:30:41
Name: Sonny Hollingshead
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Lee Gideon passed away this week after suffering from a heart ailment. He was 65. He did bit parts in some network TV shows, stage acting, and was best known 'round these parts for his voice characters on radio commercials.

Lee Gideon Here is an excerpt from the obituary:

Lee was best known to fellow Tulsans for his alter ego of Modell Phipps who was a popular radio and special appearance personality. He appeared in "America's Most Wanted," several episodes of "Walker, Texas Ranger," and was cast in a number of roles on the popular "Dallas" television series. He also hosted 13 episodes of "Video Tonight" for England's Lorimar Productions.

Here are his credits on the IMDb.

Time: October 09 2003 at 06:17:45
Name: Jim Reid
Location: Dallas
Comments: What ever happened to Accountability Burns? Has he run for any offices lately?

Unaccountably, he hasn't filed for office in over a year.

Time: October 08 2003 at 23:32:57
Name: msbv2
Location: Still the on other side of Arkansas
Comments: Hi guys! Oom-A-Gog for governer? Cool! I'd say go for it...but being in Tennessee now, I can't vote in OK anyway...We have a self proclaimed inter-planetary alien king here who runs for mayor (and loses) every term, so why not? I forget the name of his planet, but it isn't one of the 9 in our general neighborhood.

Another question for you!
Anybody here remember the Horn Brothers (furniture?) country music TV show? They used to run it late at night on weekends. I'm guessing channel 8. It must've been at about the same time in the mid '70's as the John Chick Show. Aside from that, all I remember is a woman called Pam Van Dyke was a regular performer. I'm thinking some local media person was the emcee.

Thanks again!

The Longhorn Wingding dates back at least to 1965, as the link shows. "Ike Horn" (M.A. Eichhorn) was the emcee. Pam Van Dyke is now a jazz singer here in Tulsa. The show was typically on around 6 p.m.

Time: October 08 2003 at 15:06:32
Name: Dave Harmon
Location: Ahhnold Land
Comments: Oom-A-Gog and Elvis for gov'nor.....sheesh....couldn't hurt anything.

Time: October 08 2003 at 13:42:47
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: Oom-a-Gog and Shaggy Dog

The "Og" party.

Time: October 08 2003 at 12:57:24
Name: Steve Bagsby
Location: Next to the Sky Chief pump
Comments: I say we run Oom-A-Gog for Governor down here! Who would be a good running mate?

Time: October 08 2003 at 10:59:04
Name: Rich Lohman
Location: Sipping a Koolee...
Comments: Could you imagine if Arnold won here in Oklahoma? Imagine the first paint-peeling, asphalt ripping tornado that came up the pike relocating everyone from Wellston to Broken Arrow. His press conference would be comic relief enough:

"Ve vill dooh evvyting ve can fo dose people touched by dis tragedy...vot is a tonaydo anyvay?"

Time: October 07 2003 at 22:45:21
Name: Rich Lohman
Location: Abject apologies to the webmaster for another food thread...
Comments: Koolees were my favorite food group when the QTs started springing up close to the soccer fields that I played and practiced on. It was a very big deal when my parents granted me permission to walk to the QT to purchase the Koolees. I can remember the first one I bought was a 32 oz Lamar cup for something like 50 cents.

The milkshakes I described in an earlier post cost $1.99, and they aren't anywhere close to 32 oz.

Time: October 07 2003 at 21:34:51
Name: Frank Morrow
Location: Austin. TX
Comments: I assume that they don't still have fun-houses at the State Fair. We old guys will remember them, particularly at the end of the exit ramp, when the barker, who had a mirror, would press a button, and a blast of air would come up from the floor, blowing up the skirt of the females. Guys would hang around for hours, hoping to get a glimpse of pink or white, perhaps with a little lace.

I recall an incident in Tulsa right after WWII when a teen age girl started to come down the ramp to go out, but, when she saw what was happening, she ran back in. She appeared again, slowly creeping toward the place where the blast of air would occur. She apparently didn't know that the barker was watching in his mirror.

She let another woman go by. Then, she again crept slowly toward her rendevous with destiny. Of course, the crowd of males standing on the ground below was mad with expectation.

Finally, the girl made a dash for safety and freedom, but the barker timed it perfectly, letting go with a big blast that blew the poor child's skirt up to her waist. I'll never forget how the barker's voice sounded, "Ho. Ho. Ho. She didn't have on any panties at all!" The men cheered.

Such was the male-female culture in the sexist '50s.

Now that girls wear jeans, there is nothing to blow up. Anyway, many women would gladly raise their skirts voluntarily, thereby taking all the fun out of it.

Time: October 07 2003 at 21:06:37
Name: msbv2
Location: The other side of Arkansas
Comments: Hi all!

Been reading here for over a year now! Lots of memories coming back.

We used to get Koolies at Quik-Trip back in the very early '70's. Then the Quik-Trip at 11th street across from ECHS (the only one in the area us kids could walk to) changed to Icees. We used to collect those little blue(?)red(?) Icee Bears printed on the side. (I think you got 3 with a large, 2 with a medium.) Never did figure out what they were supposed to be redeemable for...but we saved 'em!)

We went without Icees for a while after that Quik-Trip got caught at the wrong end of a tornado on June 8, 1974. They rebuilt, but apparently it just didn't work out as a QT. I don't know what's there now.

I never heard of Zemi. I suspect it was after my time. (When I was in school vending machines of any sort were not even on the scholastic radar. We thought a pay phone in hallway was the big time! :-))

Question for you guys! What was the name of the little squirrel critter Uncle Zeb used to make out of his bandana?


Thanks for signing in. That's a good question; I'll check with Zeb...here is his response:

Bandana squirrel's name was 'Hank.' I often referred to him as, 'Hank.. the flying squirrel'.
Keep 'em flying,
'Uncle Zeb'"

Time: October 07 2003 at 16:22:31
Name: Steve in PHX
Location: It's a dry heat Phoenix
Comments: Zemi's, I forgot about them. We had a machine at Wright Jr. High. If you could insert a nickel just right, the machine would give you $.15 change and a Zemi. Better than Vegas.

QuikTrip been out here in the Valley of the Sun for about 2 years now. Someone at the QT headquarters got a clue that Koolees might sell well here in the heat in the desert so all new QT's are getting Koolee machines!!! My daughters are now hooked on Koolees.

They're building a QT just down the road from my house. It's really weird seeing a QT going up near me here in Phoenix after growing up next to QT #1 at 51st and Peoria.

I'll be in Tulsa next week for OSU homecoming. I'm looking forward to attending Oktoberfest and eating my way through Tulsa starting with Goldies, then Braums, maybe some Elmer's.... can't forget happy hour at Rosie's Rib Joint. Some much good food, so little time.

Speaking of food, I saw a strange announcement on a billboard today. It said that Martha Stewart is honoring Ike's Chili and that filming would begin Oct. 14. The billboard is visible as you exit onto 71st Street from the Mingo Valley expressway, coming from the north.

Time: October 07 2003 at 04:35:21
Name: Grama
Location: Locust Grove
Comments: Thank You!!! For years I've tried to find someone who remembered the Big Bill and Oom-a-Gog show. I've yet to find anyone. I was beginning to think that it only existed in my mind and here it is for all to see!

You're welcome.

Time: October 06 2003 at 17:40:04
Name: Kathy Schramm Rapp
Location: Texas
Comments: YES! those Koolies from the Quick Trip were great, especially on those hot summer Saturdays. I used to walk up 61st Street to the QT at 61st & Sheridan for one, then go across the street to the TG&Y next to Safeway and buy 45's of my favorite songs, (still have them), a pack of candy cigarettes, and a handful of ZOTZ candies. Does anyone remember those? They explode and sizzle in your mouth when you bite into them.

There was a 1962 Tom Poston movie called "Zotz!", having to do with a magical coin. Zotz candy is still available.

Time: October 06 2003 at 16:46:35
Name: Charles
Location: Too far North
Comments: I believe that the polar bear was the Icee mascot. We bought Icees at Git N Go and Koolies at Quik Trip. I still go to my old neighborhood Git N Go (at 11th and Mingo....my 60's source for Richie Rich) when I visit Tulsa each summer.....the store seems to have shrunk from the way I remember it circa 1969!

U-Tote-M was also a source for Icees, as well as a locale for tube testers.

Time: October 06 2003 at 16:12:52
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: Which one (Icees or Koolees) had the polar bear in the sweater as their mascot? The green Icees were called 'Green Grog' and the cherry was 'Red Rum' or some pirate name.

Time: October 06 2003 at 16:09:54
Name: Steve Bagsby
Location: Center of the traffic circle building my winter home
Comments: I remember Zemi's. We had a machine in the locker room at Whitney Jr. High. I remember the grape flavored had a strange whank to it. Also remember getting Icee's at the In-n-Out at 15th and Sheridan. Remember the green Icee's? Guaranteed brain freeze!

Is "whank" (or "whang", as in "that crappie has a whang to it") Oklahoma-only slang? I guess not, because I found this Adam Sandler quote: "Life is a lot like a bowl of punch, it has a wang to it."

Time: October 06 2003 at 14:40:10
Name: Rich Lohman
Location: Risking another food/snack thread...
Comments: I do remember Zemi's but I remember Koolees from QT better. I know they are still around but in my travels today I came across a QT where you could buy a milkshake in addition to the regular QT drinks at the fountain, plus a chilled milk drink. The Koolee's, to my considerable dismay, were renamed "FREEZONI" at this QT, located at 21st and 129th.

Time: October 06 2003 at 12:18:15
Name: Charles
Location: Fargoland
Comments: Here is a link (from a previous guestbook) to information about Phantasmagoria.

Time: October 06 2003 at 10:37:39
Name: Kathy Schramm Rapp
Location: Warm & humid S.E. Texas
Comments: I, too, remember the kiddie rides of the 60's like the boat ride. A couple of our favorites were the Tilt-a-Whirl and the Bumper Cars. Please refresh my memory - what was the Phantasmagoria again?

Secret Fun Spot's Flash-powered Web Toon #2, "The Phantasmagoria", shows you what it's like. Kirk D., the cartoonist, has checked in here several times.

Time: October 06 2003 at 09:46:31
Name: Charles
Location: Sunny and warm in North Dakota
Comments: There was a Mad Mouse at Bell's for years. It was on the northern edge by Phantasmagoria. Do you remember the kiddie rides that were there in the 60's like the clown carts or the large pool with the little boats that you could ride in?

Time: October 05 2003 at 23:03:21
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: Oklahoma Stage
Comments: Herman's Hermits were really fun. If you missed Peter Noone and his group at the TSF, you missed a great time.

I still dream about cherry flavored Zemi's.

Time: October 05 2003 at 18:45:33
Name: Webmaster
Location: Tulsa
Comments: The Tulsa State Fair came to a close today. The previous Guestbook touched on many aspects of the Fair: rides, eats, exhibits, Elvis, freebies, the "Bobo", shows, and "shearing parties" (we're not talking about sheep.)

Rick Rutledge, late of KJRH's "World's Worst Movies", checked in and told us what he's up to. Hockey and rasslin' in Tulsa got a going-over.

All of that is on display in the just-archived Guestbook 147.

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